Beware of Crosses

    The Karelian Bear Dog/Russo-European controversy in North America


    We are dedicated to sharing information to educate those interested in learning about the Karelian Bear Dog, a rare Finnish
    breed, and the unfortunate situation that exists here, in the United States and Canada .

    Many KBD'S in Canada and the U.S. called purebred, by their owners, are actually crosses of the Karelian Bear Dog and Russo-
    European-Laika. It happened innocently enough in the beginning, when a breeder imported some REL, and registered them as
    Karelian Bear Dogs with the Universal Kennel Club.  If you do your research, “Universal” is NOT recognized by the American
    Kennel Club, the Canadian Kennel Club or any FCI country’s kennel clubs.  These two breeds both originate from the
    Finnish/Russian border area, from the ancient Komi dog of that region.  Having been developed as individual breeds in their
    respective countries for  generations, the Russo-European Laika was crosses with another Laika breed in it's development.  The
    KBD was never crossed with another breed.  The greatest similarity today is in their color.  Both are striking black and white,
    although the REL can be white with black markings, or black with white markings, or even shades of grey, while the KBD
    standard is black with white markings only on the head, chest, neck and feet, as well as the tip of the tail.  No other colours are
    acceptable.

    Each is recognized as an individual breed in all FCI countries, with it's own breed standard (KBD breed standard).  It is only in
    the United States and Canada  that some breeders insist that they are interchangeable.  Why would these breeders be right and
    the rest of the world be wrong?  Of course these breeders are not right, but having sold many puppies to families as "purebred",
    they refuse to back down, even today, when the KBD has been accepted into the American Kennel Club Foundation Stock
    Services, and they cannot record their dogs, because they are not PUREBRED.  The United Kennel Club is the only U.S. kennel
    club accepted by the AKC, and United recognizes the purebred Karelian.   The Canadian Kennel Club recognizes the KBD and
    what the breeders of the mixes in Canada , who register their dogs with Universal Kennel Club, fail to realize is that under the
    Animal Pedigree Act, it is illegal for someone to claim a dog to be “Purebred” unless it is registered or eligible to be registered
    with the Canadian Kennel Club.

    Before buying a puppy, everyone has the right to know what they are buying.  Do your research.  If you live in Canada , ensure
    that your new puppy is registered with the Canadian Kennel Club.  If you live in the US , ensure your puppy is registered with
    the United Kennel Club and/or with the American Kennel Club Foundation Stock.  No matter where you live, be wary of a
    breeder who does not ask anything about you and your reasons for wishing to own a Karelian, be wary of any breeder who just
    asks for a deposit and does not offer any information on the breed, make sure to ask to see pedigrees and ask for help reading
    that pedigree.  It may not matter to some whether or not their dog is a cross of these two breeds, but everyone has the right to
    know the facts before they make their decision.  No one deserves to be be misled or lied to, or even innocently misinformed.  
    Recently, some breeders  have added a purebred stud or bitch to their breeding stock, advertising them as such, but deliberately
    omitting that they are breeding with a REL/KBD cross.

     
    Please go to www.karelianbeardogclubofamerica.com  for the breed standards for both breeds and links to breeders of purebreds
    in Canada , the US and European countries, along with other useful information.    



    Below is an article in the Vapaa Sanna, the largest Finnish/English newspaper in North America. Our Runningbeardog's Kesa is
    featured in the top picture. The bottom right picture is of my friend Anna and her KBD. The article includes information about
    the KBD breed and also a warning about the KBD/Russo-European Laika crosses in North America.
A Lesson learned....

Sadly we were misled, as may
still are toda
y..
After years of research about the
KBD, in 2000 we decided it was time
to add one to our family.  There
wasn't alot of information available
on the internet at that time, nor
many breeders.  We  found  maybe
two or three that we  were able to
research, one in Canada and the
others in the U.S.  All of the breeders
appeared to have dogs that were
related, but from what we
understood at the time, not many
KBD's had been imported to North
America.   In November of 2000, our
Sielu (scroll down to see pictures)
came to us as an 8 week old pup, and
was represented as a Karelian Bear
Dog.  He was a little ball of fur, and
only 8 pounds when he got here, so
small but such a tiger.   Even as
young pup, he had a very aggressive
temperament and at 6 months old we
had him neutered, which is supposed
to help with overly aggressive dogs,
also knowing we would never have
bred a dog with his temperament.  
His aggression worsened
considerably after he developed
siezures at about 1 1/2 years old. He
could be loving at one moment and
in the next turn on you and attack.  
Sielu was 4 years old when we had
to make the hard decision.  His
aggression had gotten so bad that we
couldn't trust him, even with us,
much less risk him hurting anyone
else.  In spite of it all, we loved him,
and it was the hardest decision we
ever had to make.

Our research had told us that the
KBD was not supposed to be human
aggressive, so we began looking
elsewhere when considering adding a
second KBD to our family.  We still
didn't know that Sielu wasn't a
purebred when we got our Kukka in
2001, our first KBD directly from
European (Danish) parents. We
knew nothing about the crosses at
that time.  Upon examining Kukka,
our vet said that Kukka and Sielu
were like two different breeds, body
structure  was different as night and
day.  We had seen it as soon as
Kukka arrived, even though she was
only a pup, but we attributed it to
possibly bad breeding for Sielu, as
well as his health issues.  He weighed
35 pounds, tops, and Kukka
outweighed him by a good 10
pounds within a year.  Temperament
was also night and day different.  
That's when we aggressively began
researching his pedigree and spoke
with many reputable European
breeders.  We eventually discovered,
by tracking his pedigree back, that he
had alot of Russo-European Laika
(REL) in him.  The REL is a distinct
and separate breed in all FCI
countries.  Third generation back
included dogs that came directly from
Russia, recorded at birth as
Russo-European Laikas.  Note the
difference in the head, ears, mask
(rings around the eyes), a Laika
characteristic not found in the KBD,
as well as slighter bone and body
structure.  In the development of the
REL in Russia, they were crossed
with another Russian Laika breed.  
The Finns never crossed the KBD
with any other breed in their
development.
Sielu, a REL/KBD cross
Kukka, a purebred KBD
Sielu REL/KBD Cross